Jeremy Glick

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Jeremy Glick was one of the passengers who died when United Airlines Flight 93 crashed on 9/11.

Phone call

Jeremy Glick called his wife, Lyzbeth, after Flight 93 was hijacked. The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette was one of many papers to report what happened next:

9-11 Commission

The 9-11 Commission interviewed Lyz Glick about the 9/11 call with her husband, where she made several corrections to media reports.


Jeremy Glick has become a part of the following 9/11 theories.

Airfone or cellphone

Jeremy Glick was one of the Flight 93 passengers who made calls to relatives on 9/11, and as such he's become a part of the controversy over how those calls were made. David Ray Griffin and others say that initial reports said he used a cellphone, but regular calls cannot be made at altitude, so providing evidence that the calls were faked or didn't come from Flight 93. They then point to the Moussaoui trial evidence that says Glick called on an airfone and say the FBI have changed their story.

Here is the example media report used by David Ray Griffin in Debunking 9/11 Debunking:

There are at least two problems with this theory.

The first is that Griffin relies entirely on the media report being correct, and there's no guarantee of that. Here's a Post Gazette graphic that incorrectly shows Todd Beamer making a cell phone call, for instance:


No-one (to our knowledge) disputes that Beamer called on an airfone, so this shows that mistakes can be made.

The second problem is that Dr Griffin presents his quote as though it somehow represents all media reports, and that isn't the case. We found a report on the very same day as his that says Glick used an airfone:

Later Glick's wife wrote a book of her own, Your Father's Voice, confirming this on page 192: "he said he was calling me on the seat-back phone, not his cell".

Dr Griffin offers no evidence to show his report is correct, then. He fails to point out that at least one other media account contradicts the one he offers, and that this is backed up by Glick's wife. And therefore the FBI evidence at the Moussaoui trial repeats claims that have been made within days of the attack, and in no sense represents a change of story.

South tower collapse

In the book "Among the Heroes" Jere Longman reports Lyz Glick telling Jeremy that one of the towers had just fallen. Reportedly he then went on to take a vote amongst other passengers about trying to regain control of the plane. The south tower collapsed at 9:59, so this places the Flight 93 passenger revolt later, yet the 9/11 Commission Report said it began at 9:57. David Ray Griffin and others have used this to support the idea that either Flight 93 actually crashed at 10:06, or it didn't crash near Shanksville at all and the calls were faked.

Lyz Glick gives another account of events in her own book, Your Father's Voice:

Now the vote is inspired by news of the Pentagon, not the collapse of the south tower. Because Lyz Glick said "one of the twin towers collapsed somewhere during this interval" it could be argued that she's still saying the revolt began after the collapse, but let's be realistic here. She also says she doesn't even recall knowing about it at the time, so this isn't a recollection "as it happened", it's something she's tried to figure out later. The fact that there are contradictions in Lyz Glick's accounts, and she admits they're fuzzy - quite understandable given the traumatic nightmare she was going through - shows that we can't use them to deliver some rock-solid, clearly defined timeline. They're simply not that reliable.